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Kevin
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by Kevin » Sun. Nov. 23, 2014 4:24 pm
leakrex wrote:What exactly is the point of a 5 round draft here exactly???
U guys must have never run a league because IF WE DONT GO WITH A 7 ROUND DRAFT, THERE WILL BE MAJOR ISSUES AND HEADACHES
Don't say I didn't warn you....
seriously though why the arbitrary number at 5 rounds???? Why not 3 rounds?? Or 2??? Its just silly to deviate from the NHL, as well as the league that we are getting the ratings packs from....
Really? There was a pretty significant league that lasted a decade that only ran 4 rounds that didn't seem to have any problems. You haven't made any case for how a 5-round draft would be so disastrous against a 7-round league. Are players like Ondrej Kase that will probably never play pro hockey in North America that important to have be placed on your prospect pool with zero value?
You ask why an "arbitrary" number of five. Why doesn't the NHL do a 9-round draft anymore? Why seven?
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OtownSens
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by OtownSens » Sun. Nov. 23, 2014 10:19 pm
Well if we are only having a 5 round draft per year, are those players that weren't picked during their "draft" year available for us to draft them the following year? In another league you know Kev, is the DITR list (Diamonds in the rough), where players whose rights are owned by an NHL team but not owned by an EHE team, is available to be drafted in the EHE yearly draft. There are tons of examples of a 6th or 7th round guy becoming a very good NHL player. I personally like 7 rounds because those late rounds is were really in depth research becomes important, plus just taking flyers on guys you think may have a chance. Also those late round picks become decent little trade pieces to use
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by AvsGM » Sun. Nov. 23, 2014 10:23 pm
OtownSens wrote:Well if we are only having a 5 round draft per year, are those players that weren't picked during their "draft" year available for us to draft them the following year? In another league you know Kev, is the DITR list (Diamonds in the rough), where players whose rights are owned by an NHL team but not owned by an EHE team, is available to be drafted in the EHE yearly draft. There are tons of examples of a 6th or 7th round guy becoming a very good NHL player. I personally like 7 rounds because those late rounds is were really in depth research becomes important, plus just taking flyers on guys you think may have a chance. Also those late round picks become decent little trade pieces to use
I agree with most of what you said.
What would it cost anyway to make it 7 rounds instead of 5? It's true that probably half the GMs will not care about these picks, but the other half will try to get as many as possible on draft day, because they'll have a few guys that they think could be steals, at least that's what happens to me very often. I mean, I drafted Rourke Chartier in the 6th round of a draft and boy am I happy with that. He's tearing the WHL apart.
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leakrex
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by leakrex » Sun. Nov. 23, 2014 10:53 pm
its not even such a huge issue Kevin... I mean I am mostly saying to keep it at what the NHL uses as well for the purpose that not every single pick is going to pan out...
im just worried if we went to a lower number of rounds it would hamper trading because its usually a 6th or 7th round pick that gets added to sweeten a deal and get more transactions done
either way not a huge deal, but for all intensive purposes if the NHL is using 7 rounds, I say we go with 7 rounds too... if they go to 5, we should go to 5..
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Kevin
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by Kevin » Sun. Nov. 23, 2014 11:10 pm
OtownSens wrote:Well if we are only having a 5 round draft per year, are those players that weren't picked during their "draft" year available for us to draft them the following year? In another league you know Kev, is the DITR list (Diamonds in the rough), where players whose rights are owned by an NHL team but not owned by an EHE team, is available to be drafted in the EHE yearly draft. There are tons of examples of a 6th or 7th round guy becoming a very good NHL player. I personally like 7 rounds because those late rounds is were really in depth research becomes important, plus just taking flyers on guys you think may have a chance. Also those late round picks become decent little trade pieces to use
Yes, they definitely go back into the pool unless they have ratings, in which case they'd move to the UFA pool, or are age 24 or over.
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SharksGM
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by SharksGM » Mon. Nov. 24, 2014 6:49 pm
I love finding gems in late rounds. But at the end of the day I'll enjoy whatever format is chosen.
If it's only 5 rounds though that's like using only 2 1/2 rounds of 2014 and 2 1/2 rounds of 2015. It works out to 9 rounds worth of NHL drafted players not drafted into the league. Just something to think about.
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by Kevin » Mon. Nov. 24, 2014 8:19 pm
CapsGM wrote:I love finding gems in late rounds. But at the end of the day I'll enjoy whatever format is chosen.
If it's only 5 rounds though that's like using only 2 1/2 rounds of 2014 and 2 1/2 rounds of 2015. It works out to 9 rounds worth of NHL drafted players not drafted into the league. Just something to think about.
Yeah I'm pretty much convinced by this discussion that we should make next summer's entry draft a 7-rounder.
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lakings
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by lakings » Mon. Nov. 24, 2014 8:41 pm
Even though im not convinced that a 7 round is the best format, dont forget about how these players (6th-7th rounders) new salaries after the current ones will be renewing in a couple of years.
I see no disavantage of having some players moving to the free agency or in next year draft. The "gems" will still be there and available. Just more spead out. Are we that eager to select these players that, in general, will take 2-3-4 yeara to get to the NHL.
Only my 2 cents !
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by AvsGM » Mon. Nov. 24, 2014 8:50 pm
lakings wrote:Even though im not convinced that a 7 round is the best format, dont forget about how these players (6th-7th rounders) new salaries after the current ones will be renewing in a couple of years.
I see no disavantage of having some players moving to the free agency or in next year draft. The "gems" will still be there and available. Just more spead out. Are we that eager to select these players that, in general, will take 2-3-4 yeara to get to the NHL.
Only my 2 cents !
If you see a gem that no one sees, it's likely that in the following year, people will notice him. And you will lose your gem.
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by lakings » Mon. Nov. 24, 2014 10:10 pm
Once again its coming back to my old reply. If you think they are that good, just draft them in the 1st 5 rounds or trade for them during the season. Its çreating activity in the league.
For me, it just add players to your prospect list for no reason. You probably wont be using them regularly for the next 2-3 years anyway.
Like I wrote before, I love drafts and free agency period so either way im good with the final decision.